The 'Look What the Postman Brought Me' Thread - Technology Edition

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Re: The 'I Just Bought' Thread - Technology Edition

Post by Snowy » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:09 pm

Yeah they are an expensive buy, but the ability to lock yourself away from the world and experience music in such clarity is worth the outlay imo.

The noise cancelling is absolutely nuts, quite how they deaden the noise of the outside world is nothing short of witchcraft.
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Post by eny » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:47 pm

It monitors the noise and replays it out of phase which cancels it....the opposite would double the output which is how the LOUD function in radios works.

Eg, a note of say 60hz (waveforms) a second is played, and the same feed played at a delay that corresponds to halfway through the waveform would cancel the sound of both....type thing
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Post by Mantis » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:02 pm

The feature where you hold your hand over one of the ear cups and it reverses the cancellation so that everything is amplified around you is a really useful little extra. No more pausing music or taking headphones off to hear when people are speaking.

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Post by Drarok » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:19 am

eny wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:47 pm
It monitors the noise and replays it out of phase which cancels it....the opposite would double the output which is how the LOUD function in radios works.

Eg, a note of say 60hz (waveforms) a second is played, and the same feed played at a delay that corresponds to halfway through the waveform would cancel the sound of both....type thing
If it were based on delaying, wouldn't you have to delay each frequency by a different amount, and then once that frequency stopped making a noise, you'd hear the delayed one on its own at the end?

I assumed these worked by inverting the sound wave, making peaks into troughs and vice versa.
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Post by Alan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:41 am

The only noise cancelling ones I have are my momentum’s and I hate it and hate so much that you can’t actually disable it if using Bluetooth. It colours the sound with that underwater vooshing and most of the time I don’t actually want noise cancelling because of where I wear them.

That said, I’d be real interested in trying out more modern noise cancelling. I take it it still has that swishy background sound because i suppose it’s kind of unavoidable given the method?
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Post by Raid » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:29 am

No, the Sony ones just deaden the sound of anything outside the earcups; there's no noticeable extra noise created. It's like wearing a pair of ear defenders, but that are lightweight and comfortable enough to wear all day. It's eerie the first time you try them.

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Post by Mantis » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:08 pm

They are pretty remarkable. I have a pricey pair of in ear noise cancelling Sennheiser's and the difference is pretty significant. Even on the plane, the Sony's were letting in only the tiniest background noise. When walking around the airport departure terminal and spending 3 hours sat on a coach everything was totally silent so all I could hear was my music. It's very peaceful to just put something chilled out on and escape the bustle, particularly at the airport.

The sound quality of the music is top notch too, you can really pick all the little details out of a mix.

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Post by Raid » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:06 pm

Yeah, I walk to work listening to podcasts and the traffic noise is never louder than the (relatively softly spoken) presenters. They're doing some sandblasting on the main road bridge in the centre of Lancaster at the moment, and it's ear-splittingly loud normally (my old headphones, even at their highest volume setting, couldn't overpower it). I can still hear said podcast clear as day over it.

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Post by eny » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:06 pm

Drarok wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:19 am
eny wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:47 pm
It monitors the noise and replays it out of phase which cancels it....the opposite would double the output which is how the LOUD function in radios works.

Eg, a note of say 60hz (waveforms) a second is played, and the same feed played at a delay that corresponds to halfway through the waveform would cancel the sound of both....type thing
If it were based on delaying, wouldn't you have to delay each frequency by a different amount, and then once that frequency stopped making a noise, you'd hear the delayed one on its own at the end?

I assumed these worked by inverting the sound wave, making peaks into troughs and vice versa.

Yeah phase inversion is the way they work, I was just illustrating how you can negate one frequency to give an idea of what happens.... 8-[
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Post by Wrathbone » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:03 pm

I'm thinking of getting a pair of the Sonys for office use. This may be a stupid question given that they're noise cancelling, but is there any sound leakage? My current office earphones sound great, but if I turn them up more than about a third then everyone else has to listen to whatever rubbish I'm developing to. Plus I can still hear everyone asking where the distant noise of the Spice Girls or Sousa's greatest military themes is coming from. :oops:

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Post by Mantis » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:45 pm

I can sit with mine on at the office with my phone volume at about 75% and my colleague three feet away can't hear it. When I max the volume out it does get noticeably a lot louder though and you can hear them fairly clearly from nearby.

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Post by Wrathbone » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:56 pm

Awesome, cheers mate.

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Post by Snowy » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:07 am

I would second that. My first outing with them was on a plane (and what a revelation) but I had them cranked up. When my wife asked to try them, I could clearly hear some meaty metal leaking from them, and promptly looked apologetically at the chap on the other side of me. To be fair to him he hadn't said anything, but hearing other people's shit is a pet hate of mine so I felt bad.
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Post by Wrathbone » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:26 pm

I ended up getting them, and they're exceptional. I tried some of my dad's Sony noise cancelling headphones from a couple of generations ago, which were good, but these are great. The NC quality has really come on leaps and bounds, and the overall sound quality is significantly better than my old trusty Audio-Technicas (which are pretty damn good for around £100). My ears are very happy.

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Re: The 'I Just Bought' Thread - Technology Edition

Post by Snowy » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:53 pm

I like to think of us all clad in these (they seem a TGA favourite) typing posts in utter serenity while the world explodes around us :D
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