Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Drarok » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:57 am

Raid wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:35 am
I'm not yet convinced this guy is mentally unstable.
I'd argue that mentally stable people don't attempt murder, even when pushed!
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And that's the story of why I'm not allowed near pregnant women for the next few weeks.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:28 am

The point I was trying to make was that mental instability quite often results in either a complete lack of reasoning, or extreme leaps of logic. I'm not convinced that applies here. I don't think you could say that any other politician in Trump's position would be planning on ending support for Ukraine, because nobody else views this sort of thing based on the transactional cost. Trump sees everything as a deal, and in his mind the US is not getting a good return on investment for the money its spending on supporting Ukraine, because that value doesn't appear on a balance sheet. Ergo, removing the possibility of him returning to office means there's a better chance of Ukraine continuing to receive US support. That wouldn't be the most spurious logic I've ever seen used for a murder or attempted murder.

I think it's too easy for America to just shrug these things off by saying "oh the gunman was mentally unstable." They've done it for years, and it's a convenient excuse to not look at the actual causes of gun violence (including the actual access to guns). It's much easier to say that someone is "crazy" and that no sane person would ever do it (and therefore the current system doesn't need changing) than to ask hard questions. It's the same as the "one bad apple" logic that gets applied to the misuses of police power.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Animalmother » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:42 am

I get the reasoning there alright, if I take this one person out I could be saving hundreds of thousands of lives as well as a country's existence. I think the last guy who actually hit Trump had the same opinion.

As for AK's being available the US , they very much are. I believe there's places you can legally own grenade launchers and 20 mm canons if you have the cash.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Wrathbone » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:53 am

The story has conveniently buried this corker of a gaffe from yesterday:


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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by eny » Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:36 pm

Finally, some movement on accountability for trump's ruse to pretend he didn't lose the 2020 election. Tina Peters sentenced to 9 years total for her role in trying to present a fake slate of electors, well worth a watch at how eloquently the judge sums up what went on:


https://x.com/CoffinItUp/status/1841909132778942632




Also, Judge Chutkan released a redacted Jack Smith's answer to the Supreme Court ruling on immunity, and my god it is damning:


https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1841562765388832910


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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Wrathbone » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:18 am

A Trump rally at Coachella resulted in what sounds like a mini Fyre Festival.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-coache ... 0hkIuVVthv

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:21 am

It probably would have been more effective if they'd instead bussed thousands of Democrat supporters out to the middle of nowhere and left them.

I think it's telling just how quickly the US is ready to believe conspiracy theories that the immediate response is somehow not "administrative fuckup" and more "the Dems drained all of the gas from bus filling stations!!!" It must be utterly exhausting being in the US this year .

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Animalmother » Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:49 am

Another guy with a loaded rifle and a fake ID detained near the rally. But it's the US so he was probably just going about his normal day. It must indeed be utterly exhausting to live there at the moment.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by eny » Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:43 am

He is part of the fash crowd, always in pics with Flynn, Raiklin et all. It was a zealous "constitutional Sheriff" desperate for favour, who jumped the gun without verifying who the guy was. He had a hooky journo pass because he is part of the conspiracy "truther" crowd...all a load of bollocks.
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