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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Animalmother » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:36 pm

He sacked the female head of the US Coastguard saying she wasn't qualified for the job etc. She'd held the position since 2021 and been in the navy 40 years, I mean what could she possibly understand about the job!? She also rooted out the ingrained sexual harassment and rape in the system which probably put Trump's back up.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by eny » Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:04 pm

They removed the constitution from the WH website, and all Spanish language pages too. They reversed the lower drug prices from the Biden admin, and stopped all the infrastructure act measures also. Pathetic, weak and vindictive, all for the service of greed and avoidance of accountability. The DEI shit is the most laughable, all in the name of their ignorance as they install the dumbest, incapable and derelict people into jobs DEI people worked twice as hard to get to.
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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:45 pm

I think the DEI changes refer to ending the hiring practices rather than their removing anyone hired by them. I mean they'll probably do that too, and there won't be any government employees that aren't straight, cis-gendered white males by the end of the year, but for the moment they're holding off on going full Nazi.

Someone on Reddit pointed out earlier that an X is just a Swastika without serifs, and I can't get it out of my head now. Reddit actually made the front page of the BBC with an ongoing effort by hundreds of communities to ban any and all links to X, and I really hope that this is the moment that companies start to do likewise. I think it's time to take the hit and lose some of their reach, which has been the excuse up until now. Let the site deflate into the squalid little far-right cesspool that Elon wants it to be.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Animalmother » Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:56 pm

The thing is, any action against Musk will now be viewed as an action against the US government. He's got himself buried right in there like a tick.

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Post by Raid » Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:03 pm

I think it'd rather be taken as a slight on Musk himself, but honestly I don't see that as a bad thing. I think the world needs to distance itself from the US for the next few years.

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Post by eny » Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:22 pm

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Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:45 pm
I think the DEI changes refer to ending the hiring practices rather than their removing anyone hired by them. I mean they'll probably do that too, and there won't be any government employees that aren't straight, cis-gendered white males by the end of the year, but for the moment they're holding off on going full Nazi.

Someone on Reddit pointed out earlier that an X is just a Swastika without serifs, and I can't get it out of my head now. Reddit actually made the front page of the BBC with an ongoing effort by hundreds of communities to ban any and all links to X, and I really hope that this is the moment that companies start to do likewise. I think it's time to take the hit and lose some of their reach, which has been the excuse up until now. Let the site deflate into the squalid little far-right cesspool that Elon wants it to be.

All current "DEI" hires were put on paid leave as of 5pm last Tuesday...


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Post by Stormbringer » Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:34 pm

Raid wrote:
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I think the world needs to distance itself from the US for the next few years.
In what respect? Economically, that's not an option. Not for us; certainly not for Ukraine.
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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:53 pm

I wasn't trying to suggest it would be in any way easy or indeed even possible, but it's blatantly obvious that Trump wants to use America's economic position like a battering ram, and I detest the fact that it works because we're so dependent on access to that market. We need to be less reliant on the United States.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Stormbringer » Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:22 pm

Raid wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:53 pm
We need to be less reliant on the United States.
May as well need to be less reliant on oxygen while we're at it!


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Raid wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:45 pm
Someone on Reddit pointed out earlier that an X is just a Swastika without serifs, and I can't get it out of my head now.
While I agree now that Elon's "my heart goes out to you" gesture is suspicious (at best), I really think this sort of thinking is a step too far: seeing things that aren't there. Jumping at shadows. It's potentially a dangerous mindset to inhabit. I'm not having a go at you, but just saying, don't listen to this person on Reddit, and people who think like that.
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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:38 pm

eny wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:22 pm
All current "DEI" hires were put on paid leave as of 5pm last Tuesday...
Yeah, I'm still reading that as anyone that is working on a DEI hiring scheme, as in the scheme through which employees are hired, not anyone hired under one of those schemes.

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Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:22 pm
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Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:45 pm
Someone on Reddit pointed out earlier that an X is just a Swastika without serifs, and I can't get it out of my head now.
While I agree now that Elon's "my heart goes out to you" gesture is suspicious (at best), I really think this sort of thinking is a step too far: seeing things that aren't there. Jumping at shadows. It's potentially a dangerous mindset to inhabit. I'm not having a go at you, but just saying, don't listen to this person on Reddit, and people who think like that.
I don't seriously think that he changed the name to X because it's close to a swastika (he's been trying to use the name X for things all his life); it's a joke. I do however think that there's enough evidence for me to believe the man is likely a white supremacist, far-right nutjob, because of all of the utter shitbags he's supporting and associating himself with. He's paying Tommy bloody Robinson's legal fees for goodness sakes. Oh, and...

HE DID THE BLOODY NAZI SALUTE ON A PODIUM BEING BROADCAST TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.

I do not think you need to give him the benefit of the doubt. At best he's a moron and an arsehole. At worst he's trying to corrupt any Western democracy he can insert his grubby little chequebook into.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Stormbringer » Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:00 am

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he's a moron
Well, clearly that's not true. You don't get to achieve what he has achieved if you're a moron.
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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Alan » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:52 am

There’s different ways you can act like a moron. I still see him as an emotionally stunted CoDbro edgelord that would happily call you a faggot if your KD is under 1. Almost like he’s still essentially a snapshot of his emotional age when he made his millions. Also didn’t he tweet support the AFD in Germany? This isn’t in a vacuum.
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Post by eny » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:32 am

You might get a better handle on him if you research why he was named Elon and how his father instilled his Rocket/Boring/Mars fantasy in him. His family background is heavily fascistic and Nazi favouring. He would be happy to suck the life out of this planet to fulfil his ends, if that is what it takes.


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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:01 am

Stormbringer wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:00 am
Raid wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:38 pm
he's a moron
Well, clearly that's not true. You don't get to achieve what he has achieved if you're a moron.
I will concede that he's probably more intelligent than the other man in the Oval Office.

Ok, ok, I'll concede that "moron" was far too short of a hand to really get across my opinion of the man, it was late and I'd had a trying day and maybe a low-effort barb wasn't the best response. I absolutely do not think he is anywhere near as intelligent as his supporters do - I feel American society, perhaps Western society in general views success as being closely linked to intelligence, but it's obviously far more nuanced than that and the latter does not begat the former.

To me, possessing that much wealth makes philanthropy an absolute no-brainer, that if you could end much of the suffering that everyday people go through by spending your money, you should do that. I don't mean just handing out money to people, but funding programmes that assist the needy, or research into ways to do that. Musk once asked for a plan to end world hunger and he'd fund it, and I think the UN did just that. His response was that it wouldn't work, but I don't recall ever seeing him making any effort to fix whatever problems he saw with that plan to make it work. Instead he donated the money he'd pledged to end hunger to his own foundation as a tax write-off. It was 2% of his net worth at the time, an amount that he'd probably earn back within a few months by doing absolutely nothing, and he decided just not to bother.

And then there's some of his actions over the last few years that, if you're assuming he's a decent or 'normal' human being appear idiotic. Stuff like buying Twitter and then immediately firing the majority of its staff because he thinks he can code it better himself. Obviously we know now that his plan was not to make a successful business more successful, but instead buy access to millions of people's social media to promote his awful ideology.

Basically he has the wealth and power to fix *so* many of the world's problems, and he's instead concentrating on being powerful and wealthy. Perhaps he thinks fascism is the right style of government to achieve a better world, but I just can't see any motive other than an end goal of having all of the wealth and all of the power. He is everything I detest about the ultra-wealthy.

In my opinion he's making the wrong choice every time. To me, he is a moron.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Wrathbone » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:13 am

Rich and powerful has very little correlation with being notably intelligent, either. Trump alone should be living proof of that.

Intellectually, I consider Musk to be firmly average at best. Emotionally and ethically, I agree he’s a moron.

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