Perhaps in the long term...but, Mao and Stalin are hard to beat in terms of number of deaths caused by their actions.
Trump: Impeach is the new Orange
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My fire is more than can be made with forests,
My state more base than are the basest valleys;
I wish no evenings more to see, each evening;
Shamed, I hate myself in sight of mountains,
And stop mine ears, lest I grow mad with music.
My state more base than are the basest valleys;
I wish no evenings more to see, each evening;
Shamed, I hate myself in sight of mountains,
And stop mine ears, lest I grow mad with music.
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In terms other than deaths, though, Trump’s net misery and disruption is vast on a global scale. He’s upended global trade, destabilised global relations and diplomacy and has arguably even eroded the value of factual information in the global mindset. He’s taken an already fragile world and dropkicked it through the only remaining safety barriers. The worst effects of Mao and Stalin, while certainly unimaginably grim, were kept relatively localised. Trump has fucked everyone.
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Localised or not, it held back Russian aviation advances for decades. The aircraft kept Stalin.
*cough*
*cough*
A man who could tell more truth and eat fewer pies.
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I wonder how much it'd cost to hire a crop duster to unleash a torrent of Japanese knotweed over Turnberry golf course?
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Wrathbone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:13 amIn terms other than deaths, though, Trump’s net misery and disruption is vast on a global scale. He’s upended global trade, destabilised global relations and diplomacy and has arguably even eroded the value of factual information in the global mindset. He’s taken an already fragile world and dropkicked it through the only remaining safety barriers. The worst effects of Mao and Stalin, while certainly unimaginably grim, were kept relatively localised. Trump has fucked everyone.
You make a good point, though I'd argue Putin has been far worse between the two of them.
His war in Ukraine has also had massive impacts on global trade and the economy, while the cost of human lives on both sides of the war on a daily basis cannot reasonably be compared to Trump's economic and political tomfoolery, no matter how much it's shaken the fragile foundations of the modern world. I suspect the impact of Trump's 'bull-in-a-china-shop' approach to global politics will be felt over a longer term, overall, but I maintain, as bad as he's been thus far, he's still the lesser of the two weevils.
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Do not go gentle into that good night,
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Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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I think we just need to start referring to the US Government as the "US Protection Racket". He may as well have said "nice trade surplus you've got there, it'd be a shame if something were to happen to it."
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That rogue apostrophe after the "Oh" though...
Oh' Trump!!!
Oh' Trump!!!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cpqvdxzwv22t
Stats published showing that job figures are worse than expected, so Trump has fired the person in charge of the stats.
Is it too much of a stretch to imagine that because trying to explain the economy and the job market to Trump is a painful and fruitless task, his advisors just bring him big colourful charts with all the lines going up, and that's why he thinks he's doing so well?
Stats published showing that job figures are worse than expected, so Trump has fired the person in charge of the stats.
Is it too much of a stretch to imagine that because trying to explain the economy and the job market to Trump is a painful and fruitless task, his advisors just bring him big colourful charts with all the lines going up, and that's why he thinks he's doing so well?
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I'm afraid that in the case of "lies, damned lies, and statistics", the guy in charge of statistics was bringing him statistics.Wrathbone wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:31 pmIs it too much of a stretch to imagine that because trying to explain the economy and the job market to Trump is a painful and fruitless task, his advisors just bring him big colourful charts with all the lines going up, and that's why he thinks he's doing so well?
Either he doesn't believe the numbers because the man is pathologically incapable of thinking he's wrong, or he's just denying the truth to the public because the statistics don't fit the narrative of "most successful President in history".According to Trump, the "numbers are wrong" in the most recent job statistics.
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Dead within a month?
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No chance. She’s an easy puppet.
A man who could tell more truth and eat fewer pies.
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Trump's lawyer rushed over to meet her once the Epstein stuff kicked off again, presumably to broker a deal. I can't believe that all she got out of it was being moved to minimum security, and if she'd been offered a pardon then it's not like Trump would bother waiting for the right time to do it - he'd just do it now out of fear of her talking. So I dunno... maybe they couldn't make a deal and this makes her a much easier target.
Maybe I'm totally wrong, but my gut feeling is she's toast.
Maybe I'm totally wrong, but my gut feeling is she's toast.