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Post by Jez » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:13 pm

I suppose you'd have to work as intimately within government "at the front line" to appreciate how much is wasted really DJ. Seriously it's disgraceful.
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Post by Achtung Englander » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:44 pm

Moral Hazard fucks up both civil and private business. Decisions with no responsibility. If politicians and civil servants were paid by result orientated goals (you know like the private sector) than waste would crash. It does not even have to be the profit motive, it could be waiting times, improved SLA or quantifiable efficiencies. Politicians are given almost blank cheques and if they fuck up...we can vote them out of office...yeah great
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Post by Mantis » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:12 pm

People in power do use the efficiency savings argument to argue against tax rises, but in reality both are valid methods of boosting public revenue spending. I see a lot of areas where public money is wasted, in some instances the way it has been siphoned off from our department really should be viewed as criminal; but you don't even need to be a civil servant to do a bit of research and see how many areas we just blow money on nothing.

The problem is that rather than addressing these issues properly, the Conservatives have spent 8 years slashing front line services and giving even more lucrative contracts to their friends in the private sector. That's a big contributor to your waste right there. It is literally the opposite of what they should be doing if they really want to fix the crises that are starting to take shape in pretty much every sector of public services; particularly in health and education.

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Post by DjchunKfunK » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:14 pm

Jez wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:13 pm
I suppose you'd have to work as intimately within government "at the front line" to appreciate how much is wasted really DJ. Seriously it's disgraceful.
I work in the Houses of Parliament mate, I'm aware that there is waste.

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Post by Stormbringer » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:17 pm

Oh really?

Then do you know, perhaps, a man by the name of Martin Tunstall? ¬_¬
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Re: Are they taking the piss !

Post by Jez » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:41 pm

DjchunKfunK wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:14 pm
Jez wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:13 pm
I suppose you'd have to work as intimately within government "at the front line" to appreciate how much is wasted really DJ. Seriously it's disgraceful.
I work in the Houses of Parliament mate, I'm aware that there is waste.
Greatest of respect but that's not front line whatsoever unless you count the photo copying queue.
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Re: Are they taking the piss !

Post by Achtung Englander » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:47 pm

miaow

OK - shit when I created this thread I didn't realise it would get this political. 3 subjects to avoid when talking to friends - politics, religion and penis sizes. I am 8 inches....I think :lol:
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Post by Stormbringer » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:49 pm

To be honest, the most annoying thing about this thread is the title. You asked a question, but put an exclamation mark at the end, with a space between the word and the mark. No sign of a question mark whatsoever. Get it together!
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Post by Sly Boots » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:50 pm

Why!

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Re: Are they taking the piss !

Post by Mantis » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:13 pm

Achtung Englander wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:47 pm
miaow

OK - shit when I created this thread I didn't realise it would get this political. 3 subjects to avoid when talking to friends - politics, religion and penis sizes. I am 8 inches....I think :lol:
This really is nothing compared to the level of disagreement that used to take place in the old referendum/politics thread on PW.

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Re: Are they taking the piss? Yes, but only once a month.

Post by Jez » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:30 pm

Yeah I'm good I'm sure DJ is also it's a bit of fire in a thread about bins :)
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Post by Sly Boots » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:35 pm

Jez wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:30 pm
Yeah I'm good I'm sure DJ is also it's a bit of fire in a thread about bins :)
Literally a garbage fire :lol:

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Re: Are they taking the piss !

Post by DjchunKfunK » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:11 pm

Jez wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:41 pm
DjchunKfunK wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:14 pm
Jez wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:13 pm
I suppose you'd have to work as intimately within government "at the front line" to appreciate how much is wasted really DJ. Seriously it's disgraceful.
I work in the Houses of Parliament mate, I'm aware that there is waste.
Greatest of respect but that's not front line whatsoever unless you count the photo copying queue.
I don't work on the political side I work for the House Service.

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Post by The Jackal » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:25 pm

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Re: Are they taking the piss? Yes, but only once a month.

Post by Jez » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:32 pm

Fair to say that we won't agree then :) I don't even know what a house service is.

Whatever you say mate nobody in their right mind throws GOOD money after BAD. Which is what increasing taxes for the middle incomes does and let's fuckin face it ... that my friend is where the lions share of any increases will come from. Left me use a medical parlance for you direct from the front line of both the military AND NHS ... surgery...101...Fix the weeping bleed then reconstitute. Anything else ends up in a deepening pool on the floor doing no good.
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