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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:52 pm

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That's gonna be stuck in my head for a few days. :lol:
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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by eny » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:28 pm

That is fucking brilliant! :lol:
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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Raid » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:22 pm

Bloody hell.

I don't recall ever hearing members of the House of Commons speaking like this before. Get through the bit by George Cox (who earlier in the day I found myself quite enjoying because he sounds a bit like Mr. Carson), and listen to the Labour MP's response.

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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Wrathbone » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:48 pm

Yeah, I was watching it at lunch. There was some genuine fury going on, and Geoffrey Cox could play a wonderful Captain Hook going by his pantomime villain theatrics.

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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:28 pm

Cox is such an amazing rhetorician I can't help but wonder why he isn't the PM.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Mantis » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:27 pm

Some of the stuff coming from the Tory front benches today is beyond belief. They are all criminals.

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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Achtung Englander » Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:24 pm

when did the Parliament Channel get better than Netflix ?

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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by The Jackal » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:22 pm

The more people keep posting videos of that guy, the more I'm going to avoid them.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Raid » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:00 pm

So parliament has voted to avoid shutting themselves down for the duration of the Tory party conference. That's an interesting precedent to set, and much as I can understand it (the Tories did already shut parliament for a week during the prorogation afterall), I get the feeling that the other parties will be affected next year.

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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Strudel » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:26 pm

The SNP don't get a recess for their conference so I'm all for doing away with the summer recess.

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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:27 pm

The Jackal wrote:
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The more people keep posting videos of that guy, the more I'm going to avoid them.
He is very funny, though.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Achtung Englander » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:25 pm

Evoking the death of Joe Cox by Labour to win the moral ground feels a little like playing to the gallery. I mean you cannot win either than agreeing "its bad" but strangely that is not how Johnson played it. Calling it Humbug shows that Johnson is not a sharp politician. He needs to be smarter than that and come out and condemn the actions of some real nutters out there because they are. On the flip side I think Labour and the Liberals need to be careful here because their shenanigans is not going unnoticed by a lot of people who think fair is fair - the Brexiters won and to thwart a democratic decision is to play a dangerous game with the patience and goodwill of many.

I voted Remain but even I think we need to come out now because democracy must be seen to work.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Mantis » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:31 pm

I'm not sure that you can really accuse one side of taking the moral high ground to 'play the gallery' when it probably is a very correct course of action to point out that one MP has already been murdered because of the rhetoric and stance taken by the ardent anti-EU right wingers both inside the Tory party and outside of it. It's not just MPs who are receiving death threats at this point and our national security services currently are warning that right wing terrorist acts are the biggest security risk in the country over any other.

If Johnson et al keep up this position of firing up the right to try and set them against every public servant who doesn't agree with them then I guarantee that we will have more blood spilled before the end of this. We are in very dangerous territory.

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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by The Jackal » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:54 pm



This is equal parts depressing and infuriating. O'Brien sounds in the absolute depths of melancholy during this - it's like you've walked into a scene in a hospice.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

Post by Mantis » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:02 pm

This is why people should not be asked to vote for simple yes/no referendums on complex arrangements for which they have absolutely no understanding of.

Fish and chips in newspaper? Jesus Christ. That's about on the same level of the guy who said he wanted to bring back being able to crush grapes with his feet again.

I'm pretty much ready for pandemonium at this point, though the ERG have said today that they're willing to accept some modified form of May's deal. Perhaps they're starting to blink in the face of the cliff edge. This could go down to the absolute wire as to whether we crash out or not.

Can't wait for all those job losses and taking our country back.

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