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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:19 am
by Drarok
Is it conjecture, or is it strongly indicated by his history, his statements, and his actions? We can certainly agree he looks inept.
Here's a good collection, for a start:
https://www.markpack.org.uk/153744/jere ... yn-brexit/
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:36 am
by Wrathbone
Drarok wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:19 am
We can certainly agree he looks inept.
No we can't. Not being able to overcome the constant noise of the media and your own party undermining you is one thing; being inept is another thing entirely.
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:04 pm
by Drarok
Mantis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:24 pm
…staying on the fence over the matter, but he's dallied for so long that it's starting to make him look inept
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:16 pm
by Wrathbone
Sorry, thought you were using the collective "we".
I don't understand what May is thinking right now.
BBC News wrote:The UK can still leave the EU with a "good deal", Theresa May has insisted.
Sir Bedevere wrote:...Look, if we built this large, wooden badger...
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:51 pm
by Raid
I get the feeling that May's brain was accidentally set to read only about six months ago. Has anyone checked the side of her head to see if there's a small plastic tab missing?
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:20 pm
by Raid
Holy shit that was close; a majority of just *four* MPs voted against accepting a No Deal situation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47562995
What the hell is wrong with these people?!
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:30 pm
by eny
This Wetherspoons boss is a dick, ffs.
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:46 pm
by Raid
Wasn't that the guy that suggested people vote to Leave on his company's beermats? Didn't he then come out and say that it would mean putting the prices up for his customers? He's not only an arsehole, he's a short sighted one too.
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:00 pm
by The Jackal
Raid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:46 pm
Wasn't that the guy that suggested people vote to Leave on his company's beermats? Didn't he then come out and say that it would mean putting the prices up for his customers? He's not only an arsehole, he's a short sighted one too.
The signs in my local one promote homegrown Strika liqueur as an alternative to Jaegermeister, and the drinks menus repeatedly state BUYING BRITISH = LOW PRICES or summat.
....then why didn't you do that in the fucking first place??
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:06 am
by Mantis
Nigel Farage now actively trying to lobby EU right wing governments to refuse to allow the UK an extension of A50. Pretty sure that lobbying a foreign power to act against the interests of the state is still an offence of treason, for which the punishment is life in prison.
Where are the leading figures coming out to reject Brexit entirely? We need a leader now more than ever to rise up and have the courage to day that this is all wrong.
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:53 am
by Stormbringer
Mantis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:06 am
We need a leader now more than ever to rise up and have the courage to day that this is all wrong.
The idea of a leader "rising up" and overriding a democratic decision of the people makes me very nervous.
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:24 am
by Snowy
Something needs to happen. Brexit has completely undone any ability our current representatives have to do anything. Can't believe there were only 4 votes in it, what are these bell-ends, lemmings?
Wheeeeee a cliff!
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:44 am
by Mantis
Stormbringer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:53 am
Mantis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:06 am
We need a leader now more than ever to rise up and have the courage to day that this is all wrong.
The idea of a leader "rising up" and overriding a democratic decision of the people makes me very nervous.
A democratic decision based on lies, dodgy money, misinformation and fiddling the voting criteria so that many of the people most affected couldn't take part.
It's farce democracy. Brexit is a right wing coup and nothing else I'm afraid. There is no upside to leaving apart from making a small group of disaster capitalists a fortune and placating hard right xenophobes.
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:46 am
by Snowy
Apart from anything else, in a post-Brexit Britain these incapable dithering cockwits would be the only ones able to affect the legislation of the UK. That alone is terrifying!
Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:53 am
by Stormbringer
Mantis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:44 am
Stormbringer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:53 am
Mantis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:06 am
We need a leader now more than ever to rise up and have the courage to day that this is all wrong.
The idea of a leader "rising up" and overriding a democratic decision of the people makes me very nervous.
A democratic decision based on lies, dodgy money, misinformation and fiddling the voting criteria so that many of the people most affected couldn't take part.
Still a democratic decision, though, and if we believe in democracy we have to uphold the sacredness of that. The people that don't like the outcome will always label those who voted the other way as idiots (and a variety of other names) and blame this, that and other (we saw exactly the same thing in Scotland when the Separatists didn't get what they wanted). But if you believe in democracy you have to accept the outcome and find a way to deal with it. To speak of strong leaders rising up and overthrowing democracy because you didn't like the result of a referendum is the first step on the path to tyranny.