The Gamers Arms

On the basis that I have to be consistent, I don't support a second referendum.

I support ignoring the first referendum. It shouldn't have went to the people in the first place. Therefore I can't support it going back to the people. Revoke Article 50, deal with the fallout, move on.

And anybody who thinks I'm not being serious, I am. They say what's happening makes a mockery of our democracy. Well, we have a representative democracy. Referenda make a mockery of that.

This whole era makes a mockery of real issues too.

This is where I'm at now.

Tommy wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:26 am

On the basis that I have to be consistent, I don't support a second referendum.

Why do you have to be consistent? Opinions change, needs change. One of our greatest traits as humans is our ability to adapt to changing situations, not to mention the ability to compromise. I didn’t support the first referendum either but if the options are crashing out with no deal, accepting May’s shit deal or having another referendum, another ref is my preferred option.

Over a million people in central London protesting today. Meanwhile, about 200 people on the Pro Brexit March are just passing through Nottingham.

Mantis wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:51 pm

Over a million people in central London protesting today. Meanwhile, about 200 people on the Pro Brexit March are just passing through Nottingham.

Yup, spot the difference

Christ, the Leave bunch look like they're looking for the SAGA coach to take them back to the home...

At what point do you think the pro-Brexit march look at each other and decide that they're doing their cause more harm than good?

Raid wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:36 pm

At what point do you think the pro-Brexit march look at each other and decide that they're doing their cause more harm than good?

After they start fucking each other to keep warm, most likely.

The more of a shitshow this becomes, the more optimistic I start to feel about it. The impression I get is that it is increasingly more likely that there will have to be something drastic like an amendment that includes a requirement for a second referendum in order for May's deal to be voted on/pass. I dunno if it's just the background noise of the massive protest yesterday + the petition though. I WANT TO BELIEVE.

so on Wednesday we are going to have a night of indicatives votes. So far No.10 has said TM deal is still the only one on the table. Even if May accepts the verdict of the indicative votes, how will she negotiate that when she will not believe in it and if the EU say this is not the deal we agreed on. I think this is the biggest crises the UK parliament has faced since 1940. One thing is for sure, history books will be written about this in their droves.

I still think we are heading for a hard Brexit merely out of default irrespective of what Parliament voted for.

I saw an article on a fact-checker website which suggested the amount of people marching in London last week was somewhere around 300,000, rather than 1,000,000.

Was that a pro-leave "fact" checker, perchance?

No, it was an independent fact checker.

https://fullfact.org/europe/peoples-vot ... main_story

Hah. Someone at work who went said they know someone who has access to the Met Police records and "Unofficially" there were TWO million.

God I hate sitting next to tech-support.

It's like a more grown up version of my uncle works at Nintendo

Medicine Man wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:37 pm

It's like a more grown up version of my uncle works at Nintendo

Oh god, not that...