The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:12 am

So I see the Government has written a response to the petition, saying that no matter what, Article 50 won't be revoked.

Ah well.
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by eny » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:30 am

It's being debated in parliament on April 1st....
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:59 am

There's great potential for an April Fool's joke there.

Interestingly, the area in which I live (Edinburgh North) is one of the highest concentrations of signatures, up there with Cambridge, Brighton and Bristol (and parts of London).

The area with the least amount of signatures seems to be Easington, which COINCIDENTALLY is also the part of the UK with the highest concentration of white people (99%).

However, before jumping to conclusions, it should also be noted that the population of Eastington is 2171, and the number of signatures in Eastington is 2142, so almost everybody there signed it.
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Drarok » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:26 am

So, 99% of people living in a 99% white area signed it, yeah?

Cracking.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by DjchunKfunK » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:31 am

If it is pulling info from an IP then that is probably an inaccurate statistic as it could be that people from the surrounding area are all being rooted through an Easington IP.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:46 am

Drarok wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:26 am
So, 99% of people living in a 99% white area signed it, yeah?

Cracking.
That's the second snarky response I've had from you in this thread. Did I offend you in some fashion?
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Strudel » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:06 pm

DjchunKfunK wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:31 am
If it is pulling info from an IP then that is probably an inaccurate statistic as it could be that people from the surrounding area are all being rooted through an Easington IP.
It's based on your postcode which you have to enter when signing the petition.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Drarok » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:53 pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:46 am
Second snarky response from you in this thread. Did I offend you in some fashion?
Nothing personal, or even deliberate, I'm just utterly disappointed in, and frustrated by, this whole fiasco.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:56 pm

Ah; apologies for the misunderstanding. I appreciate your frustration with the situation.
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by eny » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:06 pm

She's saying "back my plan and I'll go..." She's going anyway no matter what finally happens ffs.
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Mantis » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:17 pm

Was it ever more clearer than now that this whole farce is simply about the management of the internal struggles within the Conservative Party? The hard right, UKIP pandering elite rule the roost now. If her deals go through and then she is replaced in the Summer with an ERG hard-Brexit MP then we can kiss the withdrawal agreement goodbye. Plenty of them have already advocated reneging aspects of the deal in order to crash out of it; which in turn would likely bring the troubles back to Ireland and also completely demolish our credibility as trading partners on the world stage. But the Conservative Party will limp on, avoiding a split down the middle but ruining the fabric of the country in the process.

Remain supporting Tories in Parliament are almost as bad as the ERGers. They are letting this happen and slowly falling into line because it's always Tory Party > The Nation to them.

Meanwhile Labour shadow cabinet members today have said that they aren't a "remain" party. If they pander any harder to the right wing working classes in their heartlands then they will destroy their electoral base with the rest of the country.

I fucking despair.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:38 pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:59 am
The area with the least amount of signatures seems to be Easington, which COINCIDENTALLY is also the part of the UK with the highest concentration of white people (99%).

However, before jumping to conclusions, it should also be noted that the population of Eastington is 2171, and the number of signatures in Eastington is 2142, so almost everybody there signed it.
According to Wikipedia, Easington also has the lowest population of Jedi Knights in Britain.

That explains everything.
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Mantis » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:50 pm

So, summary of tonight's indicative votes:
U.K. Parliament Votes Against No-Deal Brexit

U.K. Parliament Votes Rejects ‘Norway Plus’ Brexit Option (188-283)

UK Parliament Rejects Norway-Style Brexit Option

U.K. Parliament Rejects Staying in Customs Union

U.K. Parliament Rejects Labour's Soft Brexit Proposal

U.K. Parliament Rejects Emergency Brake (revocation of A.50) to Stop No-Deal Brexit

UK Parliament Rejects Referendum on Brexit Deal
The fact that revocation in face of No Deal was so soundly rejected is crazy.

We need a general election really don't we. This lot are useless and the next election will be fought squarely along Brexit lines.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by DjchunKfunK » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:29 pm

It's no real surprise, there has never been a consensus for a way forward regarding Brexit and the votes tonight showed that. You have MPs voting for a variety of reasons: those who wish to respect the referendum result because they are an MP in a Leave constituency; those who want to leave Europe; those who want to stay in Europe; and those who try to vote for what they see as a compromise. Unfortunately there are not enough in the last category so we are stuck.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by The Jackal » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:07 pm

I feel like I'm playing this quote out too much, but people keep agreeing with me so I must be doing something right:

"Lieutenant Dike wasn't a bad leader because he made bad decisions - he was a bad leader because he made no decisions."
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