The Gamers Arms

So I see the Government has written a response to the petition, saying that no matter what, Article 50 won't be revoked.

Ah well.

It's being debated in parliament on April 1st....

There's great potential for an April Fool's joke there.

Interestingly, the area in which I live (Edinburgh North) is one of the highest concentrations of signatures, up there with Cambridge, Brighton and Bristol (and parts of London).

The area with the least amount of signatures seems to be Easington, which COINCIDENTALLY is also the part of the UK with the highest concentration of white people (99%).

However, before jumping to conclusions, it should also be noted that the population of Eastington is 2171, and the number of signatures in Eastington is 2142, so almost everybody there signed it.

So, 99% of people living in a 99% white area signed it, yeah?

Cracking.

If it is pulling info from an IP then that is probably an inaccurate statistic as it could be that people from the surrounding area are all being rooted through an Easington IP.

Drarok wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:26 am

So, 99% of people living in a 99% white area signed it, yeah?

Cracking.

That's the second snarky response I've had from you in this thread. Did I offend you in some fashion?

DjchunKfunK wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:31 am

If it is pulling info from an IP then that is probably an inaccurate statistic as it could be that people from the surrounding area are all being rooted through an Easington IP.

It's based on your postcode which you have to enter when signing the petition.

Stormbringer wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:46 am

Second snarky response from you in this thread. Did I offend you in some fashion?

Nothing personal, or even deliberate, I'm just utterly disappointed in, and frustrated by, this whole fiasco.

Ah; apologies for the misunderstanding. I appreciate your frustration with the situation.

She's saying "back my plan and I'll go..." She's going anyway no matter what finally happens ffs.

Was it ever more clearer than now that this whole farce is simply about the management of the internal struggles within the Conservative Party? The hard right, UKIP pandering elite rule the roost now. If her deals go through and then she is replaced in the Summer with an ERG hard-Brexit MP then we can kiss the withdrawal agreement goodbye. Plenty of them have already advocated reneging aspects of the deal in order to crash out of it; which in turn would likely bring the troubles back to Ireland and also completely demolish our credibility as trading partners on the world stage. But the Conservative Party will limp on, avoiding a split down the middle but ruining the fabric of the country in the process.

Remain supporting Tories in Parliament are almost as bad as the ERGers. They are letting this happen and slowly falling into line because it's always Tory Party > The Nation to them.

Meanwhile Labour shadow cabinet members today have said that they aren't a "remain" party. If they pander any harder to the right wing working classes in their heartlands then they will destroy their electoral base with the rest of the country.

I despair.

Stormbringer wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:59 am

The area with the least amount of signatures seems to be Easington, which COINCIDENTALLY is also the part of the UK with the highest concentration of white people (99%).

However, before jumping to conclusions, it should also be noted that the population of Eastington is 2171, and the number of signatures in Eastington is 2142, so almost everybody there signed it.

According to Wikipedia, Easington also has the lowest population of Jedi Knights in Britain.

That explains everything.

So, summary of tonight's indicative votes:

U.K. Parliament Votes Against No-Deal Brexit

U.K. Parliament Votes Rejects ‘Norway Plus’ Brexit Option (188-283)

UK Parliament Rejects Norway-Style Brexit Option

U.K. Parliament Rejects Staying in Customs Union

U.K. Parliament Rejects Labour's Soft Brexit Proposal

U.K. Parliament Rejects Emergency Brake (revocation of A.50) to Stop No-Deal Brexit

UK Parliament Rejects Referendum on Brexit Deal

The fact that revocation in face of No Deal was so soundly rejected is crazy.

We need a general election really don't we. This lot are useless and the next election will be fought squarely along Brexit lines.

It's no real surprise, there has never been a consensus for a way forward regarding Brexit and the votes tonight showed that. You have MPs voting for a variety of reasons: those who wish to respect the referendum result because they are an MP in a Leave constituency; those who want to leave Europe; those who want to stay in Europe; and those who try to vote for what they see as a compromise. Unfortunately there are not enough in the last category so we are stuck.

I feel like I'm playing this quote out too much, but people keep agreeing with me so I must be doing something right:

"Lieutenant Dike wasn't a bad leader because he made bad decisions - he was a bad leader because he made no decisions."