The Elephant in the Room - Brexit

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Stormbringer » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:50 pm

So...they voted against no deal, but rejected all possible options at the same time?
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by DjchunKfunK » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:55 am

So this wasn't made clear at the time but the idea behind the votes was to whittle down the choices and then bring back the most popular ones on Monday for a second vote. This second vote might include some kind of vote transfer so that they can come to a clear choice.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Achtung Englander » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:21 pm

The front page of the Guardian has to be a classic. No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No

:D You simply could not write this shit. If this was a Shakespeare play, is this a comedy or a tragedy ?

Its like a car crash with more and more cars piling into each other with no end
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Sly Boots » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:26 pm

Achtung Englander wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:21 pm
No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No
... There's no limits?

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Strudel » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:33 pm

:D

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Achtung Englander » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:52 pm

The upside to all of this is that when its resolved we are not going to hear that dickhead outside the Commons shouting "No Brexit". Yeah mate - they are going to reverse it because you have shouted No Brexit 10,000 times. Yeah that's totally going to happen

SHUT THE FUCK UP
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Wrathbone » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:07 pm

Sly Boots wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Achtung Englander wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:21 pm
No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No
... There's no limits?
I was thinking:

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Medicine Man » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:43 pm

Sly Boots wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Achtung Englander wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:21 pm
No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No
... There's no limits?
I always prefered Get Ready For This myself.

In a way it kind of works just as well.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by elgaucho » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:37 pm

Amidst all this, the following made me laugh. I love my newsletters from the ICO office! :D

ICO fines Vote Leave £40,000 for sending unlawful text messages

The Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) has fined Vote Leave Limited £40,000 for sending out thousands of unsolicited text messages in the run up to the 2016 EU referendum.

An ICO investigation found that Vote Leave sent 196,154 text messages promoting the aims of the Leave campaign with the majority containing a link to its website.

The investigation also found that Vote Leave was unable to provide evidence that the people who received the messages had given their consent; a key requirement of electronic marketing law.

ICO Director of Investigations, Steve Eckersley, said:

“Spam texts are a real nuisance for millions of people and we will take action against organisations who disregard the law.

“Direct marketing is not just about selling products and services, it’s also about promoting an organisation’s aims and ideals.

“Political campaigns and parties, like any other organisations, have to comply with the law.”

Vote Leave claimed the information it had used to contact people was obtained from enquiries which had come through their website; from individuals who had responded via text to promotional leaflets; and from entrants to a football competition.

However, the organisation said that following the conclusion of the referendum campaign it had deleted evidence of the consent relied upon to send the messages. Also deleted were details of the phone numbers the messages were sent from, the volume of messages sent, and the volume of messages received.

The ICO publishes detailed guidance on political campaigning and direct marketing explaining the legal obligations organisations have to comply with the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations (PECR).

This latest fine is part of the ICO’s ongoing investigation into the use of data in political campaigns. As a result of the investigation the ICO has taken action against a number of different organisations engaged in campaigning for breaches of direct marketing and data protection laws.
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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Hatredsheart » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:01 pm

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Animalmother » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:38 pm

Jesus, that could have been a scene lifted from The Thick it It #-o

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Mantis » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:12 pm

They've just voted on her deal (or half of it at least, that's the trickery she used to get it past Bercow) again and beaten it by 58.

Our extension past April 12th was contingent on her deal passing. The EU are now calling an emergency session on the 10th just in case.

General election here we come. Whether the EU will agree to give us a further extension so that we can do that remains to be seen, I wouldn't be surprised if they were sick to death of us and just let us go on the 12th.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Raid » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:22 pm

Mantis wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:12 pm
General election here we come.
Forgive my cynicism, as ever, but what's to stop the Tories simly getting rid of May, sticking Boris or Rees Mogg in there, forcing us to crash out with no deal? It really doesn't feel like the ball is in the public's court, and the default of No Deal seems ever more likely.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Mantis » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:25 pm

Technically they can't get rid of her until the end of the year because internal rules of the party require a 12 month period between no confidence votes. So unless she goes willingly or Corbyn manages to get a no confidence majority through Parliament she is here to stay.

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Re: The elephant in the room - Brexit

Post by Snowy » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:05 pm

Unless she steps down voluntarily.

But yes, with the stranglehold the right wing press seem to have on the electorate of this country, the idiots will keep just voting in Conservatives and we will end up with some Edwin even worse than May (if such incompetence can really be doubled down on).
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