Empire of Sin - Mafia meets XCOM, out Dec 1st

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Empire of Sin - Mafia meets XCOM, out Dec 1st

Post by Sly Boots » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:20 pm

How do we not have a thread for this?!

In any case, this is looking pretty damn good - basically it's a strategy game where you run your own mafia empire, with XCOM-like tactical missions and some RPG elements as well.

It's pretty much the middle of a Venn diagram of everything I love, so unsurprisingly I shall be canarying this one.


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Post by Snowy » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:22 pm

Yeah this has been on my radar for some time, keen to see how it plays.
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Post by Sly Boots » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:05 pm

49% :(

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/empire-of-sin-review/

Going to brave it and keep my preorder I think.

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Post by Sly Boots » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:03 am

Actually I've attempted to get a refund.

Reviews are all over the place, some good, some bad, most meh, but all seem to agree it's been released in a very buggy state and the game balance is off so that it renders most of the strategy element moot.

What a shame :(

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Post by Snowy » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:00 am

That's a shame. I have pre-ordered via CD Keys so don't have the option to cancel - let it serve as a reminder of the perils of pre-ordering.

I am not too worried though, first off it didn't cost me much to pick up, but more importantly it sounds like the core of a good game is there and I am in no hurry, so happy to let them patch it up.

Will give it a good hard canarying anyhow and report back.
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Post by Wrathbone » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:04 am

It's rare for Paradox to produce an absolute duffer and their post-game support is thorough, so I'm hopeful that in a few weeks or months it will be in good shape. I'm in no rush but will pick it up if and when it reaches that state.

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Post by DjchunKfunK » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:52 am

This is more a case of Paradox just being the publisher rather than it being something like a CK or EU game so I think it's a slightly different situation. Game sounds like it is one of those that might be in a better state in 6-12 months time.

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Post by Wrathbone » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:55 am

Ah, didn't realise Paradox aren't the developers for it. I still think it looks promising, and there are a fair few positive reviews among the negative ones.

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Post by Snowy » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:31 am

Really early days - I have only put in about an hour as have not had any game-time to speak of. Tonight I will put in some more and report back.
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Post by Sly Boots » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:40 am

My refund from CD Keys just processed, so I'll wait and see for a while, and see if the issues reported with the game can get sorted out through updates. It sounds like the basis for a good game is there.

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Post by Snowy » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:08 pm

Had very little PC time of late - from the hour or two I have played the core of a decent game is there, but I have encountered bugs too. Started a fight and my UI was missing, meaning I could do nothing. Looks like it will be funbut at the same time I would have refunded it if not bought via CD Keys - RDR2 Online has a load of new content that I am meandering through, Cyberpunk is about to be released and I have already bought that - I don't really need EoS at the moment, bit of a silly purchase.
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Post by Sly Boots » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:10 pm

It's too late now but in case it comes up in the future, you can refund through CD Keys, as I did.

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Post by Sly Boots » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:12 pm

Obviously this was a big disappointment, but if you retain some curiosity but don't want to pay cash monies for it, it goes onto Game Pass for PC tomorrow.

I might give it a whirl.

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Re: Empire of Sin - Mafia meets XCOM, out Dec 1st

Post by DjchunKfunK » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:44 pm

Sly Boots wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:12 pm
Obviously this was a big disappointment, but if you retain some curiosity but don't want to pay cash monies for it, it goes onto Game Pass for PC tomorrow.

I might give it a whirl.
I've read some of the updates since it launched and it sounds like it might have addressed some of the bigger concerns.

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Re: Empire of Sin - Mafia meets XCOM, out Dec 1st

Post by Sly Boots » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:58 pm

DjchunKfunK wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:44 pm
Sly Boots wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:12 pm
Obviously this was a big disappointment, but if you retain some curiosity but don't want to pay cash monies for it, it goes onto Game Pass for PC tomorrow.

I might give it a whirl.
I've read some of the updates since it launched and it sounds like it might have addressed some of the bigger concerns.
Cool, sounds like a good time to give it a go in that case.

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