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Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:28 am
by DjchunKfunK
Ricciardo summed it up in that F1 doc on Netflix, he wanted to be somewhere where he felt happy, that to him was as important as winning and he didn't feel that at Red Bull. He also bore the brunt of the reliability issues at Red Bull so it's not like he was giving up what he felt like was a reliable car.

I can see Vettel doing an Alonso at McLaren at some point this year.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:34 am
by Drarok
Not got around to watching that yet, a couple people have mentioned it though.

There's unreliable, and then there's slow and terrible…

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:45 pm
by DjchunKfunK
The Renault wasn't slow, was just behind the Red Bull before the engine issues.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:45 pm
by Raid
Yeah, Ricciardo's pace wasn't a good indication because he was on a terrible strategy (he was the only driver trying a one-stop). Hulkenberg however was running in 6th (having started 17th) when his engine went pop. The Renault probably is a decent car, but there's just something wrong with that team. They've had exactly the same amount of time to get that power unit to the level of Mercedes and Ferrari, and it's beginning to look like Honda have surpassed them now too. The race team's failings are perhaps more forgivable, but it's getting to the point where they really ought to be grabbing better results. Haas have only been operating since 2015 (2016 was their first entry), and although they've approached the sport in a very different fashion (buying large portions of their car from Ferrari), they don't have the massive financial backing that a company the size of Renault ought to be bringing.

But let's not judge Ricciardo's move just yet. Don't forget that Hamilton spent a year in a high-midfield car before Mercedes' championships started coming (although that was due to a radical change in regulations). The Renault seems like it's a good car this year, they just need to get their strategy sorted, and hopefully the reliability will improve as they work out what went wrong this weekend.

I can't remember a more disappointing result following a great first half of a race in recent years. LeClerc absolutely had that win in the bag, and it's not as if he started from pole and drove off into the distance; he had to overtake his 4-time world champion teammate let's not forget. Vettel on the other hand was really shown up by his far less experienced teammate, completing his 4th unscheduled pirouette in 10 races, without so much as a nudge from the Merc that was passing him. I said at one point last year that I didn't think Ferrari were going to take a championship with their current driver lineup (then Vettel and Raikkonen), that Vettel needed someone that would actually give him a proper fight to encourage a raise in his game. Well, here we are, after two races Vettel is being beaten by his teammate for the first time since 2014, the year that Ricciardo showed him up when they both drove for Red Bull. It's early, of course, but that 4 point gap really ought to be 14 given that Leclerc should have won yesterday.

Re: The F1 thread

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:24 am
by Drarok
DjchunKfunK wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:45 pm
The Renault wasn't slow, was just behind the Red Bull before the engine issues.
No, but both of them packing in meant the safety car kept Verstappen behind Leclerc! :lol: