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Re: The F1 thread

Post by Raid » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:54 am

Actually I've been watching quite intently; Snowy and I tend to jump on a Discord chat and watch the races together so I've just been talking about it less on the forum. Yes, it's been a dire year if you're invested in the person coming first, but the race for second has been really compelling. I quite quickly switched off of caring about who won the race as it was clear even from the first race of the year that it was going to be another championship for Max; not only has his car been ridiculously dominant (the Red Bull may as well be in a different category - I'd call it F0 but I think Nintendo would take offense), but I think I could count on one hand the number of mistakes he's made all year. He's a deserving champion even if I detest the little sod.

There've been some fantastic fights throughout the rest of the pack. I think this is the strongest field of drivers I've seen in the sport in the 16 years I've been watching - there are only two duds in Sargeant and Stroll (and even he had a fine race this weekend just gone). A resurgent McLaren, Piastri having a really strong debut season, some brilliance from Albon and Williams, wily-old Fernando Alonso showing all of his years of experience, Lawson jumping into an Alpha Tauri halfway through the year and immediately performing, Sainz's genius defending in Singapore... there's been a ton totalk about this year.

And it's been nice to have someone to watch it with too. Ian and I are building a collection of in-jokes that I'm not going to try to explain here, but this is the first year in ages I've actually been able to watch alongside someone else and it makes it so much more interesting.
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Re: The F1 thread

Post by arqueturus » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:20 am

My other half is a big fan of F1 and a huge Hamilton fan so it's not been the most pleasant year so far but it's certainly been interesting other than dominance of the Red Bull. We were in Japan earlier this year and had tickets for Suzuka which I enjoyed, it's the first one we've ever managed to get to. Those cars really do go around corners fast.

I'd agree that there's a lot going on too, lots of up and coming younger drivers and the realisation that experience counts for much too. It'll be interesting to see how well Max performs if he has some real competition because I have a suspicion that's he's massively brittle.

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Re: The F1 thread

Post by Raid » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:29 am

Brittle? Maybe, but the guy is undoubtedly talented based on how he performed prior to this year. It's always tricky trying to detach a driver's performance from his car, Perez is the only real yardstick we have and he's had a shockingly poor season, but then that's normally the case for the second Red Bull and you have to assume that's partially down to something internal we're not privy to. I'm guessing there's an obligation for Perez to defer to Verstappen in all instances where it makes sense to do so, and I guess that has an impact on the driver's psychology if they know they'll not be allowed to win.

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Re: The F1 thread

Post by arqueturus » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:05 am

To clarify, I think Verstappen is a brilliant talent but whenever things start going pear shaped he seems to unravel a fair bit. There's no doubt the Red Bull car is leagues ahead of the others but I do think that that shouldn't overshadow just how good Verstappen is, even if he's a petulant child too. As much as I find Hamilton a bit dull he's shown plenty of class this year which is to be commended imo - i'd be really interested to see how Max would handle that if the roles were reversed.

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Re: The F1 thread

Post by Raid » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:20 am

Honestly I think you could say the same about Hamilton. I'm a big fan of Lewis, have been since 2007, but the way he comes across on the radio makes him sound a bit petulant when things aren't going his way. How often have we heard him complaining about his tyre strategy these last few years? But there aren't many drivers I trust more to do the job when it matters.

A lot of it comes down to adrenaline I think - Lewis is a class-act with his helmet off (sometimes with it on too), but he and every other F1 driver sound like they're moaning on the radio because that's how concern sounds when you're desperately trying to manage tyres and fuel and temperatures at 200mph while defending from someone behind you and things aren't looking to get any easier.

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Re: The F1 thread

Post by Raid » Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:39 pm

This just popped up in my Youtube recommendations. Keanu Reeves is doing a documentary on Brawn GP:


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