Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Raid » Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:16 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Epstein Files are documents gathered by the US government to convict Epstein. Given Trump has a stranglehold on the DoJ and therefore the only source of these files, there's absolutely no way to verify anything that gets released, save for re-opening the investigation and hoping all of the victims and witnesses want to co-operate a second time. The thing is this started off as a conspiracy theory that Trump used to get himself re-elected, but conspiracy theories don't really go away just because you show off some evidence - the reaction then is "where's the rest of the evidence? We can't trust anything the government says!"

I'm genuinely curious what the reaction to this will be. It's obviously not going to actually implicate Trump in anything significant, they've had too long to remove any evidence of that, but will people actually accept it?

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Post by eny » Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:22 pm

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Wrathbone » Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:46 pm

Raid wrote:
Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:16 pm
I'm genuinely curious what the reaction to this will be. It's obviously not going to actually implicate Trump in anything significant, they've had too long to remove any evidence of that, but will people actually accept it?
Of course not. I certainly won't trust that they've released the full, unedited set of evidence. We've been shown too much smoke around Trump to accept that there's no fire. It won't put an end to anything, as all it will take is the merest hint that something's been manipulated or withheld for questions to be asked again.

If I'm honest with myself, I'm not sure what could convince me that they've released everything at this point, no matter who releases it. The whole sordid business implicated so many people in positions of power that it's virtually impossible to trust the powers to be 100% open about it.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by eny » Mon Nov 17, 2025 3:22 pm

Especially since they have deconstructed and/or polluted all the arms of oversight and archival, purely to make evasion even easier.
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Post by Animalmother » Mon Nov 17, 2025 4:36 pm

Also this bizarre story of a video of Trump blowing somebody named "Bubba", which is Bill Clinton's nickname.

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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Alan » Tue Nov 18, 2025 8:16 am

So…. You have to appreciate this…. Trump is backing the release of the files which gives him some political cushion. He has also ordered the DOJ to investigate several Dems that are Epstein adjacent. Even if the House and senate vote to release and he signs it their release can be blocked if there’s an argument their release could impact these investigations.

*slow clap*

Just…. Wow…
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Re: Trump: Impeach is the new Orange

Post by Wrathbone » Tue Nov 18, 2025 9:24 am

If that's the case, I'd have thought it's only a delaying tactic. Presumably congressional lawyers would be able to determine which files were pertinent to ongoing criminal investigations and which weren't, thus permitting the release of the files that have no bearing on investigations. Of course that'll take time, though. I guess he intends to keep delaying until he carks it.

On the plus side, even if we have to wait a few years for that to happen, the release of the files could put a nail in the coffin of his children running for office. Or is that wishful thinking?

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